{"id":92784,"date":"2026-07-08T11:18:37","date_gmt":"2026-07-08T16:18:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thecitizenfortheworld.com\/?p=92784"},"modified":"2026-07-08T11:18:37","modified_gmt":"2026-07-08T16:18:37","slug":"trump-afirmo-que-el-memorando-con-iran-se-termino-y-sostuvo-que-es-una-perdida-de-tiempo-tratar-con-ellos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thecitizenfortheworld.com\/?p=92784","title":{"rendered":"Trump afirm\u00f3 que el memorando con Ir\u00e1n \u201cse termin\u00f3\u201d y sostuvo que \u201ces una p\u00e9rdida de tiempo tratar con ellos\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"article-subheadline text-align-left\">\u201cNo quiero tener nada que ver con ellos, son escoria\u201d, afirm\u00f3 el mandatario republicano durante la cumbre de la OTAN en Ankara. \u201cEst\u00e1n dirigidos por gente enferma, cruel y violenta. Y si tuvieran un arma nuclear, la usar\u00edan\u201d, declar\u00f3<\/p>\n<p>El <b>presidente de Estados Unidos<\/b>, <b>Donald Trump<\/b>, declar\u00f3 este mi\u00e9rcoles en Ankara que da por terminado el acuerdo marco de alto el fuego con <b>Ir\u00e1n<\/b>, al asegurar que \u201cse ha acabado\u201d porque \u201cIr\u00e1n es basura\u201d. Trump realiz\u00f3 estas afirmaciones durante la segunda jornada de la cumbre de l\u00edderes de la <b>OTAN<\/b> en la capital turca, acompa\u00f1ado por el secretario general de la Alianza, <b>Mark Rutte<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p>El mandatario estadounidense afirm\u00f3 ante la prensa: <b>\u201cPara m\u00ed se ha acabado. No quiero negociar con ellos, porque son basura. Son gente enferma, dirigida por gente enferma, mala, violenta. Si tuvieran un arma nuclear, la usar\u00edan\u201d<\/b>. Trump acus\u00f3 a Ir\u00e1n de mentir sobre los t\u00e9rminos del acuerdo y sostuvo que negociar con Teher\u00e1n es \u201cmalgastar tiempo\u201d.<\/p>\n<div class=\"visual__image\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/7CYUYERJVFCSNFN3O7V7TLSAVU.JPG?auth=5e62d9f0e15a1ede3bda5a6a1e5a7e29a274d87a7e1a3100a7704eb0abf6bc09&amp;smart=true&amp;width=992&amp;height=661&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/7CYUYERJVFCSNFN3O7V7TLSAVU.JPG?auth=5e62d9f0e15a1ede3bda5a6a1e5a7e29a274d87a7e1a3100a7704eb0abf6bc09&amp;smart=true&amp;width=768&amp;height=512&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/7CYUYERJVFCSNFN3O7V7TLSAVU.JPG?auth=5e62d9f0e15a1ede3bda5a6a1e5a7e29a274d87a7e1a3100a7704eb0abf6bc09&amp;smart=true&amp;width=577&amp;height=385&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 580px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/7CYUYERJVFCSNFN3O7V7TLSAVU.JPG?auth=5e62d9f0e15a1ede3bda5a6a1e5a7e29a274d87a7e1a3100a7704eb0abf6bc09&amp;smart=true&amp;width=420&amp;height=280&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 350px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/7CYUYERJVFCSNFN3O7V7TLSAVU.JPG?auth=5e62d9f0e15a1ede3bda5a6a1e5a7e29a274d87a7e1a3100a7704eb0abf6bc09&amp;smart=true&amp;width=350&amp;height=233&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 80px)\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"global-image\" src=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/7CYUYERJVFCSNFN3O7V7TLSAVU.JPG?auth=5e62d9f0e15a1ede3bda5a6a1e5a7e29a274d87a7e1a3100a7704eb0abf6bc09&amp;smart=true&amp;width=350&amp;height=233&amp;quality=85\" alt=\"Trump afirm\u00f3 que el memorando con Ir\u00e1n \u201cse termin\u00f3\u201d y sostuvo que \u201ces una p\u00e9rdida de tiempo tratar con ellos\u201d (REUTERS)\" width=\"6000\" height=\"4000\" \/><\/picture><em>Trump afirm\u00f3 que el memorando con Ir\u00e1n \u201cse termin\u00f3\u201d y sostuvo que \u201ces una p\u00e9rdida de tiempo tratar con ellos\u201d (REUTERS)<\/em><\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"Links inline\">El presidente estadounidense asegur\u00f3 que la tregua con Ir\u00e1n \u201cha terminado\u201d despu\u00e9s de los recientes ataques cruzados entre las fuerzas estadounidenses e iran\u00edes. Seg\u00fan Trump, las fuerzas de Estados Unidos atacaron \u201ccon mucha fuerza\u201d la noche anterior, en represalia por las agresiones iran\u00edes contra tres embarcaciones comerciales en el estrecho de <b>Ormuz<\/b>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"visual__image\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/QOZIJ2IMMRHS3MUPYPZMRUOMO4.JPG?auth=a5ed35e2f3c54d87ae05741460e4f25d094904a9ba390c8d5fa425e23d531f65&amp;smart=true&amp;width=992&amp;height=661&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/QOZIJ2IMMRHS3MUPYPZMRUOMO4.JPG?auth=a5ed35e2f3c54d87ae05741460e4f25d094904a9ba390c8d5fa425e23d531f65&amp;smart=true&amp;width=768&amp;height=512&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/QOZIJ2IMMRHS3MUPYPZMRUOMO4.JPG?auth=a5ed35e2f3c54d87ae05741460e4f25d094904a9ba390c8d5fa425e23d531f65&amp;smart=true&amp;width=577&amp;height=385&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 580px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/QOZIJ2IMMRHS3MUPYPZMRUOMO4.JPG?auth=a5ed35e2f3c54d87ae05741460e4f25d094904a9ba390c8d5fa425e23d531f65&amp;smart=true&amp;width=420&amp;height=280&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 350px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/QOZIJ2IMMRHS3MUPYPZMRUOMO4.JPG?auth=a5ed35e2f3c54d87ae05741460e4f25d094904a9ba390c8d5fa425e23d531f65&amp;smart=true&amp;width=350&amp;height=233&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 80px)\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"global-image\" src=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/QOZIJ2IMMRHS3MUPYPZMRUOMO4.JPG?auth=a5ed35e2f3c54d87ae05741460e4f25d094904a9ba390c8d5fa425e23d531f65&amp;smart=true&amp;width=350&amp;height=233&amp;quality=85\" alt=\"\u201cSon escoria, son gente enferma, est\u00e1n dirigidos por gente enferma, y son gente cruel y violenta. Y si tuvieran un arma nuclear, la usar\u00edan\u201d, expres\u00f3 Trump (REUTERS)\" width=\"4928\" height=\"3284\" \/><\/picture><em>\u201cSon escoria, son gente enferma, est\u00e1n dirigidos por gente enferma, y son gente cruel y violenta. Y si tuvieran un arma nuclear, la usar\u00edan\u201d, expres\u00f3 Trump (REUTERS)<\/em><\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"Links inline\">Trump explic\u00f3 que, tras permitir el funeral del l\u00edder supremo iran\u00ed, <b>Al\u00ed Khamenei<\/b>, fallecido en los primeros ataques de la guerra iniciada el 28 de febrero, Ir\u00e1n reanud\u00f3 el lanzamiento de cohetes contra buques. \u201cAs\u00ed que les dimos duro anoche, muy duro\u201d, asegur\u00f3 el mandatario, quien tambi\u00e9n sugiri\u00f3 que ha sido blanco de amenazas iran\u00edes.<\/p>\n<p data-mrf-recirculation=\"Links inline\">En respuesta, la <b>Guardia Revolucionaria de Ir\u00e1n<\/b> inform\u00f3 haber \u201cdestruido\u201d 85 instalaciones militares estadounidenses en <b>Bahr\u00e9in<\/b> y <b>Kuwait<\/b>, as\u00ed como derribado un dron MQ-9. Estos hechos marcan una nueva escalada en las tensiones tras el fr\u00e1gil alto el fuego firmado el 8 de abril.<\/p>\n<p data-mrf-recirculation=\"Links inline\">Trump acus\u00f3 al r\u00e9gimen iran\u00ed de \u201chacer da\u00f1o a su pueblo\u201d y afirm\u00f3 que <b>\u201chasta ahora han matado a 54.000 personas que estaban protestando\u201d<\/b>. El presidente sostuvo que los manifestantes no han logrado tomar el poder debido a la represi\u00f3n: \u201cNo tienen fusiles, y el otro bando tiene metralletas y los matan\u201d, dijo Trump, en alusi\u00f3n a las protestas ocurridas en enero.<\/p>\n<div class=\"visual__image\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z7YU2QNU55DL3GH4FFX43QEGDQ.JPG?auth=fedcd9f5043759a104ea00dc944f232bb52eedab8112b35d80a6defe8c198e90&amp;smart=true&amp;width=992&amp;height=658&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z7YU2QNU55DL3GH4FFX43QEGDQ.JPG?auth=fedcd9f5043759a104ea00dc944f232bb52eedab8112b35d80a6defe8c198e90&amp;smart=true&amp;width=768&amp;height=509&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z7YU2QNU55DL3GH4FFX43QEGDQ.JPG?auth=fedcd9f5043759a104ea00dc944f232bb52eedab8112b35d80a6defe8c198e90&amp;smart=true&amp;width=577&amp;height=383&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 580px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z7YU2QNU55DL3GH4FFX43QEGDQ.JPG?auth=fedcd9f5043759a104ea00dc944f232bb52eedab8112b35d80a6defe8c198e90&amp;smart=true&amp;width=420&amp;height=279&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 350px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z7YU2QNU55DL3GH4FFX43QEGDQ.JPG?auth=fedcd9f5043759a104ea00dc944f232bb52eedab8112b35d80a6defe8c198e90&amp;smart=true&amp;width=350&amp;height=232&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 80px)\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"global-image\" src=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z7YU2QNU55DL3GH4FFX43QEGDQ.JPG?auth=fedcd9f5043759a104ea00dc944f232bb52eedab8112b35d80a6defe8c198e90&amp;smart=true&amp;width=350&amp;height=232&amp;quality=85\" alt=\"Trump acus\u00f3 al r\u00e9gimen de Ir\u00e1n de reprimir protestas y afirm\u00f3 que 54.000 personas murieron en manifestaciones, seg\u00fan sus declaraciones. (REUTERS\/Yves Herman)\" width=\"3390\" height=\"2248\" \/><\/picture><em>Trump acus\u00f3 al r\u00e9gimen de Ir\u00e1n de reprimir protestas y afirm\u00f3 que 54.000 personas murieron en manifestaciones, seg\u00fan sus declaraciones. (REUTERS\/Yves Herman)<\/em><\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"Links inline\">El mandatario critic\u00f3 que la prensa internacional no informe sobre la magnitud de la represi\u00f3n en Ir\u00e1n, insistiendo en que \u201cson gente mala\u201d y que \u201cno quiero perder mi tiempo con ellos\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"Links inline\">Las declaraciones de Trump provocaron un aumento inmediato del <b>5% en los precios del petr\u00f3leo<\/b>. Antes de los ataques, Estados Unidos hab\u00eda revocado la autorizaci\u00f3n para la venta de crudo iran\u00ed en los mercados internacionales, medida adoptada como respuesta a las agresiones contra buques en Ormuz.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"Links inline\">Trump sostuvo que Ir\u00e1n tergivers\u00f3 reiteradamente los t\u00e9rminos de la tregua firmada el 17 de junio. \u201cTodo el mundo estuvo de acuerdo: nada de armas nucleares. Cerramos un acuerdo. Salen y bromean con la prensa, dicen que ni siquiera hablamos de ello. Tienen alg\u00fan problema, est\u00e1n chiflados\u201d, afirm\u00f3 el presidente estadounidense.<\/p>\n<div class=\"visual__image\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z45SZ3XQUJAEXAQ5BHTWFNC4AQ.JPG?auth=4a5e49cc5bc593f575aff170373a9f359088a8cb8d0a6794bdf88058b6667806&amp;smart=true&amp;width=992&amp;height=661&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 1000px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z45SZ3XQUJAEXAQ5BHTWFNC4AQ.JPG?auth=4a5e49cc5bc593f575aff170373a9f359088a8cb8d0a6794bdf88058b6667806&amp;smart=true&amp;width=768&amp;height=512&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 768px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z45SZ3XQUJAEXAQ5BHTWFNC4AQ.JPG?auth=4a5e49cc5bc593f575aff170373a9f359088a8cb8d0a6794bdf88058b6667806&amp;smart=true&amp;width=577&amp;height=385&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 580px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z45SZ3XQUJAEXAQ5BHTWFNC4AQ.JPG?auth=4a5e49cc5bc593f575aff170373a9f359088a8cb8d0a6794bdf88058b6667806&amp;smart=true&amp;width=420&amp;height=280&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 350px)\" \/><source srcset=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z45SZ3XQUJAEXAQ5BHTWFNC4AQ.JPG?auth=4a5e49cc5bc593f575aff170373a9f359088a8cb8d0a6794bdf88058b6667806&amp;smart=true&amp;width=350&amp;height=233&amp;quality=85\" media=\"(min-width: 80px)\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"global-image\" src=\"https:\/\/www.infobae.com\/resizer\/v2\/Z45SZ3XQUJAEXAQ5BHTWFNC4AQ.JPG?auth=4a5e49cc5bc593f575aff170373a9f359088a8cb8d0a6794bdf88058b6667806&amp;smart=true&amp;width=350&amp;height=233&amp;quality=85\" alt=\"El presidente de Estados Unidos asegur\u00f3 que la tregua con Ir\u00e1n termin\u00f3 tras los ataques cruzados y la represalia estadounidense en el estrecho de Ormuz. (REUTERS\/ARCHIVO)\" width=\"4557\" height=\"3038\" \/><\/picture><em>El presidente de Estados Unidos asegur\u00f3 que la tregua con Ir\u00e1n termin\u00f3 tras los ataques cruzados y la represalia estadounidense en el estrecho de Ormuz. (REUTERS\/ARCHIVO)<\/em><\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"Links inline\">Aunque reconoci\u00f3 que los negociadores del memorando \u2014citando a <b>Steve Witkoff<\/b> y <b>Jared Kushner<\/b>\u2014 seguir\u00e1n conversando si lo desean, Trump reiter\u00f3: \u201cPor mi parte, negociar con ellos es solo malgastar tiempo. Ellos mienten. Est\u00e1bamos de acuerdo, no habr\u00e1 armas nucleares. Ellos hablan con la prensa y dicen que nunca hemos hablado de esto. \u00bfQu\u00e9 les pasa? Est\u00e1n majara\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"Links inline\">Trump tambi\u00e9n acus\u00f3 a Ir\u00e1n de ser responsable de la muerte de \u201cmiles y miles de nuestros soldados y a cientos de miles de personas inocentes\u201d, aunque no precis\u00f3 a qu\u00e9 conflictos atribu\u00eda esas cifras, ya que en la guerra iniciada este a\u00f1o solo constan 16 soldados estadounidenses muertos en combate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph\" data-mrf-recirculation=\"Links inline\">El presidente concluy\u00f3 que, pese a la continuidad de los contactos diplom\u00e1ticos, <b>\u201cno me gusta esa gente\u201d<\/b> y considera el proceso negociador con Ir\u00e1n \u201cterminado\u201d.<\/p>\n<p data-mrf-recirculation=\"Links inline\">(<em>Con informaci\u00f3n de Infobae)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cNo quiero tener nada que ver con ellos, son escoria\u201d, afirm\u00f3 el mandatario republicano durante la cumbre de la OTAN en Ankara. \u201cEst\u00e1n dirigidos por gente enferma, cruel y violenta. 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