{"id":87778,"date":"2024-10-07T19:23:33","date_gmt":"2024-10-08T00:23:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thecitizenfortheworld.com\/?p=87778"},"modified":"2024-10-07T19:23:33","modified_gmt":"2024-10-08T00:23:33","slug":"tediosa-y-decepcionante-la-dura-critica-de-la-bbc-a-la-secuela-de-joker-con-lady-gaga-como-coprotagonista","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thecitizenfortheworld.com\/?p=87778","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Tediosa y decepcionante&#8221;: la dura cr\u00edtica de la BBC a la secuela de &#8220;Joker&#8221; con Lady Gaga como coprotagonista"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure class=\"bbc-1qn0xuy\">\n<div class=\"bbc-18ywsw9\"><span style=\"font-size: 24px;\"><b>\u00bfCu\u00e1ndo entrar\u00e1 el Joker en su papel? Esa fue la pregunta que me atorment\u00f3 durante todo el galardonado drama de Todd Phillips de 2019, <\/b><b><i class=\"bbc-h1y5j7 eih42320\">Joker<\/i><\/b><b>, protagonizado por Joaquin Phoenix en el papel del supervillano.<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">La pel\u00edcula pas\u00f3 dos horas contando la sombr\u00eda y cruda historia de la infancia de Arthur Fleck, sus problemas m\u00e9dicos, su eventual adopci\u00f3n de una nueva identidad con rostro blanco y traje de payaso, y la ola de asesinatos que desencaden\u00f3 una serie de disturbios en Ciudad G\u00f3tica.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Incluso lo mostr\u00f3 conociendo al joven Bruce Wayne, es decir, el ni\u00f1o que acabar\u00eda siendo Batman.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Pero no lo mostr\u00f3 llevando a cabo\u00a0<b>ninguno de los elaborados robos que lo han convertido en el enemigo m\u00e1s infame de Batman<\/b>\u00a0desde su debut en DC Comics en 1940.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<section class=\"bbc-geybui\" role=\"region\" aria-label=\"Publicidad 2\" aria-hidden=\"true\" data-e2e=\"advertisement\"><\/section>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">No lo mostr\u00f3 siendo el Joker.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"bbc-1qn0xuy\">\n<div class=\"bbc-18ywsw9\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"bbc-139onq\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/640\/cpsprodpb\/5393\/live\/6a5bfd70-6b1a-11ef-a184-8555c7389ad3.jpg.webp\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1008px) 760px, 100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/240\/cpsprodpb\/5393\/live\/6a5bfd70-6b1a-11ef-a184-8555c7389ad3.jpg.webp 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/320\/cpsprodpb\/5393\/live\/6a5bfd70-6b1a-11ef-a184-8555c7389ad3.jpg.webp 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/480\/cpsprodpb\/5393\/live\/6a5bfd70-6b1a-11ef-a184-8555c7389ad3.jpg.webp 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/537\/cpsprodpb\/5393\/live\/6a5bfd70-6b1a-11ef-a184-8555c7389ad3.jpg.webp 537w\" alt=\"Escena de la pel\u00edcula Joker: Folie \u00e0 Deux en la que aparecen Joaquin Phoenix y Lady Gaga \" width=\"537\" height=\"302\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"bbc-by8ykd\" role=\"text\"><span class=\"bbc-m04vo2\">Fuente de la imagen, <\/span><span lang=\"en-GB\">Warner Bros<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"bbc-15f1ujd\" dir=\"ltr\"><span role=\"text\"><span class=\"bbc-m04vo2\">Pie de foto, <\/span><span data-testid=\"caption-paragraph\">En el filme hay varios n\u00fameros musicales protagonizados por los personajes que interpretan Joaquin Phoenix y Lady Gaga.<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Para ser justos, la idea de centrarse en el per\u00edodo de Fleck anterior al crimen organizado y de rendir homenaje a las pel\u00edculas de Martin Scorsese sobre la ruina urbana de los a\u00f1os 70 y 80 fue lo que hizo que\u00a0<i class=\"bbc-h1y5j7 eih42320\">Joker<\/i>\u00a0fuera tan innovadora.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Pero ahora que Phillips ha coescrito y dirigido una secuela,<i class=\"bbc-h1y5j7 eih42320\">\u00a0Joker: Folie \u00e0 Deux<\/i>, \u00bfno deber\u00edamos finalmente verlo planeando atracos, aplastando rivales y tal vez incluso enfrent\u00e1ndose cara a cara con Batman?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Para el director, parece que no.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<h2 id=\"No-vemos-a-los-villanos\" class=\"bbc-1f03ibc eglt09e0\" tabindex=\"-1\">No vemos a los villanos<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Phillips y su coguionista, Scott Silver, decidieron<b>\u00a0continuar con m\u00e1s de la historia de fondo de Fleck<\/b>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Es una decisi\u00f3n fascinante que subvierte valientemente las expectativas del p\u00fablico, pero da como resultado una pel\u00edcula que es un trabajo pesado.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">La sorpresa m\u00e1s grande es que la mitad de\u00a0<i class=\"bbc-h1y5j7 eih42320\">Joker: Folie \u00e0 Deux<\/i>\u00a0se desarrolla en el asilo Arkham de Ciudad G\u00f3tica, donde el demacrado Fleck avanza con dificultad y casi sin vida durante su encarcelamiento, y la otra mitad se desarrolla en el tribunal central de la ciudad, donde un juez y un jurado eval\u00faan su cordura.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"bbc-1qn0xuy\">\n<div class=\"bbc-18ywsw9\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"bbc-139onq\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/640\/cpsprodpb\/9cf9\/live\/93e33240-6b0a-11ef-a332-1b394aea3238.jpg.webp\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1008px) 760px, 100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/240\/cpsprodpb\/9cf9\/live\/93e33240-6b0a-11ef-a332-1b394aea3238.jpg.webp 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/320\/cpsprodpb\/9cf9\/live\/93e33240-6b0a-11ef-a332-1b394aea3238.jpg.webp 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/480\/cpsprodpb\/9cf9\/live\/93e33240-6b0a-11ef-a332-1b394aea3238.jpg.webp 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/624\/cpsprodpb\/9cf9\/live\/93e33240-6b0a-11ef-a332-1b394aea3238.jpg.webp 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/800\/cpsprodpb\/9cf9\/live\/93e33240-6b0a-11ef-a332-1b394aea3238.jpg.webp 800w\" alt=\"Lady Gaga y Joaquin Phoenix en el set de Joker en Nueva York \" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"bbc-by8ykd\" role=\"text\"><span class=\"bbc-m04vo2\">Fuente de la imagen, <\/span><span lang=\"en-GB\">Getty Images<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"bbc-15f1ujd\" dir=\"ltr\"><span role=\"text\"><span class=\"bbc-m04vo2\">Pie de foto, <\/span><span data-testid=\"caption-paragraph\">Para el cr\u00edtico de la BBC, el filme fue &#8220;decepcionante&#8221;, porque no mostr\u00f3 la esencia del personal del Joker, un supervillano desde que fue concebido.<\/span><\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">El resto de Ciudad G\u00f3tica apenas se vislumbra.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">En el sanatorio, Fleck es objeto de burlas por parte de un guardia (Brendan Gleeson) y es entrevistado por un reportero de televisi\u00f3n (Steve Coogan). Y en el tribunal, su abogada (Catherine Keener) discute con el fiscal de distrito (Harry Lawtey) sobre si Joker y Fleck son dos personajes distintos.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Los fan\u00e1ticos de los c\u00f3mics\u00a0<b>apreciar\u00e1n el detalle de que el fiscal de distrito de Ciudad G\u00f3tica sea Harvey Dent<\/b>,<b>\u00a0destinado a convertirse en el diab\u00f3lico Dos Caras<\/b>. Pero eso no hace que el prolongado debate en la sala del tribunal sea m\u00e1s atractivo.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Esto s\u00f3lo significa que tenemos la frustraci\u00f3n de ver a dos personajes diferentes que son casi, pero no del todo, villanos de Batman.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">En realidad, tres: mientras Fleck est\u00e1 en una clase de musicoterapia en Arkham, conoce a\u00a0<b>Lee Quinzel<\/b>, interpretada por\u00a0<b>Lady Gaga<\/b>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Lee es la versi\u00f3n de Phillips de la compa\u00f1era del Joker, Harley Quinn, que fue interpretada en\u00a0<i class=\"bbc-h1y5j7 eih42320\">Suicide Squad<\/i>\u00a0y\u00a0<i class=\"bbc-h1y5j7 eih42320\">Birds Of Prey<\/i>\u00a0por Margot Robbie.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">En esta versi\u00f3n de los hechos, Lee es una admiradora que anima a Fleck a dejar de ser un recluso tranquilo y sedado, y lo impulsa a convertirse en su extravagante alter ego una vez m\u00e1s.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Un ejemplo de esta extravagancia, cuando finalmente la recupera, es que Fleck se sienta en el tribunal con su traje y maquillaje caracter\u00edstico (de alguna manera se supone que debemos creer que el juez tolerar\u00eda tal tonter\u00eda, incluso luego de afirmar:\u00a0<b>&#8220;\u00a1No voy a dejar que conviertas mi tribunal en un circo!&#8221;<\/b>).<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<h2 id=\"Se-queda-sin-trama\" class=\"bbc-1f03ibc eglt09e0\" tabindex=\"-1\">Se queda sin trama<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Lee tambi\u00e9n es central para el &#8220;gran truco&#8221; de la pel\u00edcula, que es que ella y Fleck\u00a0<b>cantan y fantasean con estar en musicales\u00a0<\/b>de Hollywood y especiales de televisi\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Estos n\u00fameros de canto y baile son una buena oportunidad para escuchar a Gaga cantando algunos de los temas m\u00e1s rom\u00e1nticos del cancionero estadounidense, y una oportunidad menos bienvenida para escuchar a Phoenix con sus propias interpretaciones m\u00e1s roncas.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Pero ninguno de estos interludios est\u00e1 escenificado con la imaginaci\u00f3n enloquecida que podr\u00eda esperarse que poseen el Joker y Harley Quinn. Y en lugar de hacer avanzar la historia, como deber\u00edan hacer las canciones en los musicales,<b>\u00a0la ralentizan<\/b>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Te quedas con la sensaci\u00f3n de que Phillips simplemente<b>\u00a0no ten\u00eda suficiente trama\u00a0<\/b>para llenar otras dos horas sin ellos.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Es una pel\u00edcula decepcionante, pero sospecho que eso es exactamente lo que se supone que debe ser.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Lo que Phillips parece estar haciendo es\u00a0<b>responder a c\u00f3mo recibieron a Fleck los fan\u00e1ticos<\/b>\u00a0de\u00a0<i class=\"bbc-h1y5j7 eih42320\">Joker<\/i>\u00a0de 2019.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">A m\u00ed siempre me pareci\u00f3 un hombre desafortunado y pasivo que provocaba disturbios m\u00e1s o menos por accidente, pero algunos espectadores lo vieron como un Robin Hood revolucionario, que asest\u00f3 un golpe por los despose\u00eddos.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"bbc-1qn0xuy\">\n<div class=\"bbc-18ywsw9\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"bbc-139onq\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/640\/cpsprodpb\/5c4f\/live\/84115c70-6b0a-11ef-b970-9f202720b57a.jpg.webp\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1008px) 760px, 100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/240\/cpsprodpb\/5c4f\/live\/84115c70-6b0a-11ef-b970-9f202720b57a.jpg.webp 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/320\/cpsprodpb\/5c4f\/live\/84115c70-6b0a-11ef-b970-9f202720b57a.jpg.webp 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/480\/cpsprodpb\/5c4f\/live\/84115c70-6b0a-11ef-b970-9f202720b57a.jpg.webp 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/624\/cpsprodpb\/5c4f\/live\/84115c70-6b0a-11ef-b970-9f202720b57a.jpg.webp 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/ws\/800\/cpsprodpb\/5c4f\/live\/84115c70-6b0a-11ef-b970-9f202720b57a.jpg.webp 800w\" alt=\"Joaquin Phoenix y Lady Gaga en el festival de cine de Venecia \" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"bbc-by8ykd\" role=\"text\"><span class=\"bbc-m04vo2\">Fuente de la imagen, <\/span><span lang=\"en-GB\">Getty Images<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">En\u00a0<i class=\"bbc-h1y5j7 eih42320\">Joker: Folie \u00e0 Deux<\/i>, Phillips no quiere correr ning\u00fan riesgo. Ha dedicado su secuela al mensaje de que Fleck es un t\u00edtere cobarde y egoc\u00e9ntrico que defrauda a todos los que lo rodean.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">No es nadie.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Dependiendo de c\u00f3mo lo mires, este ejercicio de desmitificaci\u00f3n es atrevido o irritantemente presuntuoso, pero en definitiva no es muy divertido.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\">Phillips parece estar diciendo que si te dejaste llevar por la autoimagen mesi\u00e1nica de Fleck la \u00faltima vez, eres t\u00fa el objeto de la broma.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"bbc-1qn0xuy\"><\/figure>\n<div class=\"bbc-19j92fr ebmt73l0\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<p class=\"bbc-hhl7in e17g058b0\" dir=\"ltr\"><i class=\"bbc-h1y5j7 eih42320\">Con informaci\u00f3n de BBC News Mundo.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; \u00bfCu\u00e1ndo entrar\u00e1 el Joker en su papel? 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